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Bidirectional wakes over complex terrain using SCADA data and wake models
Abstract. We investigate bidirectional wake effects between two identical wind turbines in a hill region of northern Japan using Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition (SCADA) data and validate the performance of 12 wake models. The two turbines are located 3.7 times a rotor diameter apart with a different elevation of half of a rotor diameter. We identify the wake effects in terms of wind speed ratio, which is defined as a ratio of wind speed at the downstream wind turbine to that at the upstream wind turbine. By comparing the conditions according to the operating state of the upstream wind turbine, the wakes are clearly detected as minimum wind speed ratios for northeasterly and southwesterly winds. The wind speed ratio decreases with inflow wind speed below the rated wind speed. Increase in turbulence intensity and decrease in power output are greater for southwesterly wind than for northeasterly wind because of the combined effects of the turbine-induced wake and the terrain-induced reduction in wind speed. Then, we compare the simulated wakes from the validate the wake models implemented in PyWake software by using simulated wind fields derived from Wind Atlas Analysis and Application Program (WAsP) Computational Fluid Dynamics (CFD). The wind speed ratios derived from the models show strong dependence on inflow wind speed, reflecting the thrust curve used in the engineering wake models. The wake models commonly overestimate the reduction in wind speed for northeasterly wind and underestimate it for southwesterly wind. Thus, this study demonstrates that additional topographic effects alter the wake effects.
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RC1: 'Comment on wes-2025-130', Anonymous Referee #1, 04 Aug 2025
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This paper addresses a practical topic of bidirectional wake effects in complex terrain using SCADA data and wake modeling. The comparative studies contributed to the selection of wake models in complex terrain. The following comments are intended to help strengthen the manuscript for potential publication.
- Abstract: The abstract lists the work and results but does not clearly articulate the motivation and contributions of the study. It is recommended that the authors restructure the abstract to begin with a broader background, narrow down to the specific focus on bidirectional wake effects, and end with a stronger conclusion that clearly states the novelty and significance of the work.
- Article Structure: The overall structure of the paper could be reorganized; for example, lines 54-63 seem more appropriate in the methodology section rather than the introduction. Additionally, some subheadings could be more informative. For instance, a title such as "2.1 Two Turbines" is too generic, and “2.2 SCADA” does not concisely describe the content of the section.
- Introduction: The background does not effectively introduce the primary object of the study. Moreover, literature reviews were unable to identify the progress and the key research gaps of the research. It is recommended to supplement the review with more recent and relevant work.
- Methods: The theoretical framework is unclear. The authors defined the “wind speed ratio” and conducted analyses based on it. It is recommended to provide a mathematical formula and a detailed explanation. Similarly, it is better to present the calculation of turbulence intensity.
- Validation and Analysis: For this wind field test, using wake models to validate the observed SCADA data seems unreasonable. Similarly, the use of a CFD approach in Section 3.2 as a supplementary analysis of bidirectional wake effects is not fully convincing, as the CFD model itself has not been sufficiently validated for this application.
- Reference: The bibliography contains a number of outdated references and lacks literature from the past five years that can reflect the current research status.
- Figures: Four separate figures are used to illustrate the relative positions of the two turbines, which appear redundant. It is recommended to consolidate these into a more informative figure to improve the conciseness and information density of the manuscript.
- Language and Readability: The manuscript would benefit from a thorough proofread to correct grammatical errors (e.g., "is critical issue" should be "is a critical issue" in the introduction). Attention should also be paid to improving sentence structure and logical coherence; in the same paragraph, shifts in voice (active vs. passive) and subject detract from readability.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/wes-2025-130-RC1
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