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Model sensitivity across scales: a case study of simulating an offshore low-level jet
Abstract. In this study, a seven-member ensemble of mesoscale-to-microscale simulations with varying sea surface temperature (SST) is conducted for a case in which an offshore low-level jet was observed via floating lidar. The performance of each SST setup in reproducing physical characteristics of the observed low-level jet is compared across the mesoscale and microscale domains. It is shown that the representation of low-level shear, jet nose height, and hub-height wind speed are improved when moving from mesoscale to microscale. Specifically, low-level shear is improved in the microscale by reducing near-surface wind speeds and lowering the jet nose height to be closer to that observed. Counterintuitively, the sensible heat flux on the mesoscale domains is more negative than on the microscale domains, which would indicate a more stable boundary layer with higher shear; however, the low-level shear in the mesoscale is weaker than that of the microscale domains. This indicates over-mixing of the PBL scehme in the mesoscale domains and/or over-prediction of surface drag in the microscale domain.
We analyze performance considering a real-world scenario in which the computational burden of running an ensemble of LES limits a study to performing a mesoscale ensemble to select the best model setup that will drive a single LES run. In the context of this study, the best model setup is subjective and weighs model performance in the physical representation of the low-level jet as well as the model surface forcing through the temperature gradient between air and sea. The expectation of this approach is that the best performing setup of the mesoscale simulations will produce the best result for the microscale simulations. It is shown that there are large fundamental changes in the characteristics of the low-level jet as well as in the surface forcing conditions between the mesoscale and microscale domains. This results in a non-linear ranking of performance between the mesoscale domains and the microscale domains. While the best performing mesoscale setup is also deemed to produce the best results on the microscale, the second best performing mesoscale setup produces the worst results on the microscale.
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RC1: 'Comment on wes-2025-162', Anonymous Referee #1, 16 Oct 2025
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://wes.copernicus.org/preprints/wes-2025-162/wes-2025-162-RC1-supplement.pdfCitation: https://doi.org/
10.5194/wes-2025-162-RC1 - AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Patrick Hawbecker, 19 Nov 2025
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RC2: 'Comment on wes-2025-162', Anonymous Referee #2, 29 Oct 2025
The comment was uploaded in the form of a supplement: https://wes.copernicus.org/preprints/wes-2025-162/wes-2025-162-RC2-supplement.pdf
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AC1: 'Reply on RC2', Patrick Hawbecker, 19 Nov 2025
We would like to thank the reviewer for their suggestions and comments. Please see the attached document addressing the specific concerns.
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EC1: 'Reply on AC1', Etienne Cheynet, 20 Nov 2025
Dear Patrick Hawbecker et al.,
I have a minor comment regarding your response to Reviewer 2’s general comment 3. I agree with the reviewer that repeatedly using time-series plots can become redundant; however, this does not mean that these plots should be removed. Rather, they should be complemented with additional quantitative analyses. Reviewer 2’s comment is intended as constructive feedback, not as discouragement. While time series are indeed a useful way to compare different variables qualitatively, quantitative information is equally important. The manuscript should not require the reader to perform the analysis themselves. In this sense, Reviewer 2’s suggestion regarding correlation analysis is valuable, as it points toward a quantitative complement to the time-series figures.
Concerning the reviewer’s remark about including a “Discussion” section, I would like to kindly remind you that such a section is not meant simply to reiterate or discuss the results, but rather to provide a critical reflection on the model, the numerical setup, its limitations, etc.... In other words, the Discussion section aims to look at the “big picture.” I recognize that the term “Discussion” can sometimes be confusing, so I hope this clarification is helpful.
Citation: https://doi.org/10.5194/wes-2025-162-EC1 -
AC3: 'Reply on EC1', Patrick Hawbecker, 06 Dec 2025
We would like to thank the editor for their remarks and have modified the manuscript significantly in response to the Reviewer 2 and editor comments. We believe the manuscript is much improved from these modifications and would like to thank the reviewer and editor. Please see attached for the responses directly to the editor.
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AC3: 'Reply on EC1', Patrick Hawbecker, 06 Dec 2025
- AC4: 'Reply on AC1', Patrick Hawbecker, 06 Dec 2025
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EC1: 'Reply on AC1', Etienne Cheynet, 20 Nov 2025
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AC1: 'Reply on RC2', Patrick Hawbecker, 19 Nov 2025
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