General remarks
Major remarks
We are disappointed that our remarks on the previous version of the article have not been taken into account, contrary to what the “answer to reviewer” document says. Some section titles have been changed, and some content has been moved, but the order in which the paper flows is still the same, meaning the methodology section remains messy and difficult to follow. In particular, the OpenFAST configuration is still split between two sections (2.2 and 2.4.2), and the power curve retrieval and analysis is split between three sections (end of 2.1.2, 2.1.3, and 2.2.3).
We can understand that, given the report produced by the second reviewer (that says the paper is clear), a choice was made to make minimal corrections and keep the article structure unchanged. However, we also requested more explanation about the way turbulence is taken into account in the analytical model, which were not provided by the authors. In particular, the article text does not allow relating the theory to the numerical implementation, i.e., the outputs of the boxes in the block diagram (Fig. 6) do not match the mathematical notations introduced in Sec. 2.1.
Firstly, the output from the “Power curve fitter” box on Fig. 6 is the power coefficient Cp, so that Sec. 2.1.2 should explain how Cp is determined after the Ppc(v) curve fitting (or a reference provided). Secondly, the outputs of the “Taylor expansion” box on Fig. 6 are two variables called cv and cσ_v that are not defined in Sec. 2.1. My guess is that they are the Taylor coefficients resulting from the expansion of the wind profile (cv), but also of the expansion of the wind standard deviation profile (cσ_v), but no explanations are given about this second Taylor expansion anywhere. Sec. 2.1.2 must absolutely explain how the dependency of wind standard deviation upon altitude is taken into account in the analytical model (see also detailed comments about Eq. 7 and 8). Similarly, the idealized wind profiles (Sec. 2.3) are not associated with an idealized turbulence profile, so it is not known if turbulence was included or neglected in these test cases (see also detailed comments about this section).
At this stage, readers wanting to implement the method proposed in this paper using another programming language would need to do some reverse-engineering of the code provided on Zenodo to really understand what was done. The point of an article is to allow the reproducibility of the work (not just running the code provided by the authors, but really understanding what it does), and this paper does not provide sufficient explanations to fulfill this purpose, no matter what the other reviewer said about its clarity.
Therefore, our recommendation is again “major revision”, hoping that our remarks will be understood and properly answered this time.
Minor remarks
We do not agree with the removal of units in the text when referring to the numerical value of physical quantities, even if these quantities have been previously defined. For instance (line 435), writing “the sudden drop of the OpenFAST curve at v = 12.” instead of “v = 12 m s−1.” makes no sense. Following this logic, why not suppress the degree symbol after the shear angle values (lines 451-452)? Also, the m s−1 unit is still present in other sentences (line 498), so this unit-removal policy has not even been applied everywhere.
We agree that square brackets can be used to give the associated unit when defining the notation of a physical quantity, but brackets should not be used when giving numerical values. There are still some left in the text (e.g., with the surface roughness line 315 and in the legend of Fig. 7). Also, some units are still in italics (line 498) and should be turned into regular font. Other small points mentioned in the previous review have not been corrected (see for instance detailed comment about lines 315 or 457).
Thorough work is still needed on the reference list to stick with WES guidelines, i.e., provide the DOI for all publications that have one and use journal name abbreviations. The latter can be found for instance here: https://woodward.library.ubc.ca/woodward/research-help/journal-abbreviations/. Also, many references are incomplete in the sense that the type of document is not identifiable (see detailed comments for examples).
Detailed remarks
Introduction
Line 55 (Eq. 1). The notations Ai and A must be defined.
Line 75. Minus sign differs from a simple dash and must be coded as $-$ in Latex.
Lines 100-105. Detailed information about the study site (altitude) should be given in Section 2. Same for detailed information about the lidar observations (e.g., vertical/time resolution). In the introduction, you can just say it is a mountainous site with complex terrain where wind profiles were measured using lidar during a field campaign.
Line 101. The acronym SCADA is not defined.
Line 109. The introduction is supposed to end with an announcement of the article’s plan.
Section 2.1
Line 111. “Equation 2” should be abbreviated “Eq. 2” as it is in the text. The word Equation should be used only when it appears at the beginning of a sentence. The same holds for sections, figures, and so on, as mentioned in the WES guidelines. This was already said in the remarks on the previous version of the article, it should be good to take it into account and correct it throughout the manuscript.
Line 112 (Eq. 2). There should not be a dependency upon z in P and v in this formula, because as you indicate, the wind speed is an equivalent wind speed over the rotor-swept area. It would be clearer to remove the z dependency and replace v with veq (which can be the Ueq from Eq. 1 or the new formulation you are about to introduce).
Lines 119 and 121. There are two redundant sentences here: “vertical variations across the rotor-swept area are usually the dominant factor, often far exceeding horizontal deviations” and “horizontal variations across the rotor disk are usually minor compared to the strong vertical gradient in wind speed,”
Figure 1. There is a h remaining on the side of the triangle, please replace it with z for consistency.
Line 130. “Where R[m] is the radius of the rotor-swept area of the turbine,”. Here, you specify the unit for R, as if you introduce the unit of a new notation. However, R was already used on line 115 and its unit was not defined here.
Equation 5. To what speed exactly does the v dependency of P and Cp refer? Is it the equivalent wind speed in the rotor swept area, which is actually the cubic root of the summation term in the formula? If so, it should be said, and a more explicit notation than v should be used in Eq. 5. If otherwise, please explain.
Lines 157-158. “(recommended at N = 3 providing a good trade-off between capturing essential behaviour and avoiding over-fitting)”. This has already been said above and should be removed here.
Line 164. “We refer the reader to the Data Availability Section of this manuscript for more details.” There is no “Data Availability” section, but rather “Code and data availability”. Moreover, this section should appear after the Appendix.
Lines 167 and 171. “Student-t distribution” the dash is at the wrong place: “Student t-distribution”.
Equation 7. It is not clear if this wind speed distribution applies to the equivalent wind speed in the rotor-swept area or to the wind at each altitude of the profile. In the first case, the notation v bar actually corresponds to the cubic root of the summation term in Eq. 5, which should be said (and a more explicit notation such as Veq should be used). And then, you need to explain how the variable σv in Eq. 7 is computed from the profile of wind speed variances using, I guess, the Taylor expansion of this profile. In the second case, you need to explain how the wind speed distribution at each altitude is related to the wind speed used as an integration variable in Eq. 8. These explanations are mandatory to add because their absence makes it impossible to understand the processing of turbulence in your analytical method.
Lines 181-191. Explanations about the power curve model should be moved to Sec. 2.1.3. As said in the major comments, Sec. 2.1.2 must explain instead how the dependency of wind standard deviation with altitude is taken into account.
Lines 193-194. “The analytical formulation of Equation 9 is fitted to the published power curve of the Enercon E92 2.35 MW wind turbine using manufacturer data from the technical specifications.“ A reference is missing here.
Lines 195-196. It should be specified which parameters are fixed following the turbine technical specifications (likely vin, Pr, and vout) and which parameters are actually fitted (B and C).
Figure 2. The legend is wrong “Fit (Eq. 7)” should be corrected as “Fit (Eq. 9)”.
Sec. 2.2.2. Please avoid one-sentence paragraphs.
Line 249. “from 1 to 25” missing wind speed unit.
Lines 255-256. “Remaining with Figure 3, the OpenFAST simulations cannot be based on the Enercon E92 directly, as the required blade geometry to simulate power production is proprietary. Instead, the open-source WindPACT 3.0 MW turbine is used.” All this has already been said, please do not repeat.
Figure 3a. Here, Cp is called coefficient of performance, while it was defined as power coefficient at the beginning of Sec. 2. Pointing it is the same thing somewhere might be good.
Section 2.3
Equations 10 to 12. If we follow Eq. 10, then ΔPshear,an should simply be noted ΔPshear, precising that Pref corresponds to the uniform profile. Please be consistent with your mathematical notations.
Lines 302-303. “−R and R and the bottom and top of the swept area of the blade”. This has already been defined at the beginning of Sec. 2. The point of defining unequivocal mathematical notations is to be able to use them throughout the paper without having to re-explain them each time they appear. While we are talking about notations, v bar usually denotes the speed average from Reynolds averaging, so that vhub or v0 would be a better choice to denote the wind speed at hub height.
Lines 309-312. What is the wind profile associated with the homogeneous TI? And conversely, what is the profile of TI associated with the other idealized wind profiles? It seems to us that for each idealized profile, both the wind and the TI profile should be defined. If you assume the absence of turbulence in the uniform, linear shear/veer and logarithmic profiles, it should be said.
Line 315. “Von Kármán” should be corrected to “von Kármán” with a lowercase v, as already indicated in the previous review.
Lines 318-321. A three-line section is not relevant. Either you need this section to explain the metrics used to assess the model performances, or you can merge 2.3.1 and 2.3.2.
Section 2.4
Lines 329-330. “This wind farm is situated 2106 m a.m.s.l., north–south-oriented Gotthard Pass in the central Swiss Alps.” Some words are missing, please correct.
Equation 13. It would be better to replace the constants 50/46 and 12.478 with appropriate notation and define their values in the text. This would help readers to adapt the method to other sites/turbines with different altitudes/sizes.
Section 3.1
The discussion has significantly improved in this section, notably by making better connections with the analytical formulas.
Lines 455-457. “The ∆P curves of homogeneous turbulence, shown in Figure 7c, has a characteristic shape which has previously been described to follow this relationship between power curve curvature and power contributions related to turbulence in similar works such as ?” This sentence is awkward. Maybe: “The ∆P curves of homogeneous turbulence, shown in Figure 7c, have a characteristic shape: such a relationship between power curve curvature and power contributions related to turbulence has been previously described by [reference].”
Line 457. The missing reference signalled in previous version of the paper is still missing here.
Section 3.2
Lines 522-523. As previously mentioned in the first review, the percentages provided here are incorrect. Even if you specified the formula in the new version of the article, it is not clear how you obtained a minimum bias reduction of 8.6 % and a mean of 25.4 % (should be 7.8 % and 27.2 % instead). Please correct the values accordingly (in the abstract and conclusion as well).
Section 3.4
Line 579. “the simpler configuration which are comparable” should be “which is”.
References
Line 771, Albers. If this is a book, a publisher should be indicated.
Line 772, Antoniou et al. The web link points to a presentation, if this was shown at a conference/workshop, the name of the gathering should be provided.
Line 774-775, Belu et al. We are unable to say what type of document this is. Was it a conference proceedings, a journal article, or something else? A web search only points to a PDF document available on ResearchGate, which cannot be considered an official repository.
Line 776, Bot. This one is a report, with a report number, so it should be cited as “ECN report number XXX” or something alike rather than simply “ECN”. Also, it is available online (https://publications.tno.nl/publication/34629395/v931oD/e16041.pdf), so the link could be provided.
Lines 777-779, Brown et al. Journal abbreviation should be used, missing page number, and missing DOI.
Line 780-781, Choukulkar. Journal abbreviation should be used, missing DOI.
Line 786, Emeis. This one is from the Deutsches Wind Energie Institut magazine, so it should be cited as it, with the issue number.
And so on… we are not going to go through the full list, but all references should be carefully checked to ensure they comply with the WES guidelines and make the type of document clearly identifiable.
Typos:
Some section titles (and the article title itself) have capital letters at the beginning of every word, but only the first word should be capitalized.
Line 559. The minus sign should be coded in LaTeX math mode (looking like a long dash instead of a short dash). |
Summary:
The paper presents a new analytical model accounting for the vertical variations in horizontal wind speed to assess wind turbine power production. The approach relies on the Taylor expansion of wind profile measurements in the rotor swept area obtained from Doppler lidar observations. Results from the analytical model are validated against OpenFAST simulations and measurements from wind turbines operating in the Gotthard Pass wind farm in the Swiss Alps. The topic of the manuscript is of interest since this method provides an estimate of turbine power production at a relatively low computational cost compared with other approaches. Moreover, the detailed knowledge of the turbine mechanical characteristics is not required, and the wake effects between turbines can be addressed by this new method. However, the manuscript lacks clarity, organisation, and rigour, which hinder its readability and reproducibility. More work is needed to improve the manuscript by addressing the following comments:
Major comments:
2.1 Wind profiles
2.1.1 Idealized wind profiles
2.1.2 Gotthard Pass wind profiles
2.2 Power prediction through analytical method
2.2.1 Rotor-averaged cubic wind using Taylor expansion of the wind profile (which corresponds to the current paragraph before section 2.1.1)
2.2.2 Turbulence modelling
2.2.3 Power curve fitting (current section 2.1.1)
2.2.4 Application to idealized and real wind profiles
2.3 Power prediction through numerical modelling (OpenFAST, current section 2.2 and a part of the 2.5)
2.4 Analytical model validation strategy (current section 2.5.1, to merge with the current introduction of the results and discussion part (section 3))
Minor Comments:
General comments on the manuscript (please refer to detailed comments below for details):
Detailed comments: