Articles | Volume 10, issue 10
https://doi.org/10.5194/wes-10-2161-2025
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the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License.Kite as a sensor: wind and state estimation in tethered flying systems
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- Final revised paper (published on 13 Oct 2025)
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RC1: 'Comment on wes-2024-182', Anonymous Referee #1, 13 Feb 2025
- AC2: 'Reply on RC1', Oriol Cayon, 04 Apr 2025
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RC2: 'Comment on wes-2024-182', Anonymous Referee #2, 25 Feb 2025
- AC1: 'Reply on RC2', Oriol Cayon, 04 Apr 2025
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AR by Oriol Cayon on behalf of the Authors (04 Apr 2025)
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ED: Referee Nomination & Report Request started (07 Apr 2025) by Etienne Cheynet
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ED: Publish subject to minor revisions (review by editor) (24 Jun 2025) by Etienne Cheynet

AR by Oriol Cayon on behalf of the Authors (08 Jul 2025)
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ED: Publish subject to technical corrections (09 Jul 2025) by Etienne Cheynet

ED: Publish subject to technical corrections (09 Jul 2025) by Paul Veers (Chief editor)

AR by Oriol Cayon on behalf of the Authors (18 Jul 2025)
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Further development and optimization of Airborne Wind Energy Systems requires of advance characterization and monitorization of tethered aircrafts flight dynamics. However, this can result challenging specially for flexible soft kites, as they are highly susceptible to changes in wind speed and direction. The paper presents a sensor fusion technique which is an evolution of previous works based on EKFs, effectively estimating wind velocity at flying altitude using the kite as a sensor. Albeit there is no significant novelty in the theory of the methods used, the application of the EKF and the collected experimental data, in particular, the implementation of a model that accounts for both tether sag and kite control unit inertia and aerodynamics, should be interesting for the community.
Overall, the article is well written, figures are high quality and the mathematical formulations and the technical information are presented accordingly. However, I have one major concern for the publication of this paper. For me is very difficult to follow the reasoning about the EKF implementation/design, specially the sensors used and the observation model of both the V3 and V9 kites flight tests. For example:
175-“Overall, the sensors that are least susceptible to the intrinsic deformations of the soft kite and the high accelerations of the system, and thus more reliable, are the GPS, the load cell (for tether force), and the mechanism measuring the tether length and tether angles. These sensors can maintain their accuracy despite the flexible nature of the kite. Consequently, the proposed sensor fusion model primarily relies on these measurements, resulting in a minimal sensor setup consisting of a GPS (for position and velocity), a load cell, and a tether length measurement”.
311-“The required minimum measurements are the position and velocity of the kite wing”
393- “In this section, we explore various sensor setups and model configurations. The different EKF models are detailed in Table 2. The additional measurements listed in the table are used alongside the minimum required sensors for a system with a KCU, which include the position, velocity, acceleration of the kite wing, tether force, and reel-out speed.”
In my opinion, the paper should be optimized for increased clarity and conciseness. The authors should make an effort to facilitate the reader the matching between caps 4 and 5.
I also have some minor comments: